1. Background
2. Objectives
3. Methods
3.1. Phase 1: Redesigning the Traditional Feedback System
3.2. Phase 2: Focus Group Investigation of Medical Student Feedback
4. Results
4.1. Phase 1: Redesigning the Traditional Feedback System
| Variables | Before (Agree) | After (Agree) | P-Value |
|---|---|---|---|
| Feedback was useful and actionable. | 86 | 71 | 0.5 |
| Feedback was given in an active conversation. | 86 | 77 | 0.5 |
| Feedback allowed for self-assessment. | 72 | 65 | 0.3 |
| Feedback targeted areas for improvement. | 83 | 53 | 0.4 |
| Feedback was constructive and helpful. | 97 | 94 | 0.6 |
a Values are expressed as percentage.
b Percent of students who self-reported to “Agree” or “Strongly Agree” with each statement regarding feedback received before and after implementation of the self-reflective form.
4.2. Phase 2: Focus Group Investigation of Medical Student Feedback
| Quotes | Focus Group Source |
|---|---|
| “[The feedback is] just ‘ok good job’. The opportunities to be observed are sometimes too few.” | Student |
| “I don’t think I’ve gotten any feedback from attendings. We don’t know who writes our formal evaluation.” | Student |
| “Most feedback I have gotten...has been positive without anything constructive.” | Student |
| “I don’t think it goes well. It is not very structured. We don’t know how to give feedback well.” | Resident |
| “[Feedback] is not very structured. We give very basic feedback we don’t dive into things.” | Resident |
a Focus group quotations regarding suboptimal nature or medical student feedback systems.
4.2.1. The Crucial Relationship Between Learner and Educator for Optimal Feedback
| Quotes | Focus Group Source |
|---|---|
| Quotes on the importance of an educational alliance | |
| “I think a lot of it boils down to just time you spend with someone. When you spend time with someone, you get more invested. If you’re more invested, you’re more willing to give better feedback.” | Student |
| “If you don’t have a relationship with the person, you can’t take [their] feedback seriously. If [the person giving feedback] doesn’t know you, how is there any validity.” | Resident |
| “[It is] incredibly important to have a relationship to student and often give the best feedback to those I can have a longitudinal relationship with. I wish there were ways to establish meaningful relationship on the wards.” | Attending |
| Quotes on student relationships with residents as compared to attendings | |
| “One thing I found helpful on this rotation; I went to my outpatient clinic day with a resident I had worked with. I thought it was helpful to be with that person in a different setting. Though it was a different attending, but the resident got a better sense of how I work.” | Student |
| “I’m curious how the different services give feedback but again it boils down to time. I spend more time with the residents. You go see the patients together, so it gives a good opportunity to see the exam and the history and to give that feedback.” | Student |
| “We don’t spend as much time with the attendings. There’s a collaborative environment among residents and since they are closer to our chapter, they feel more inclined to give feedback. You can tell there is more investment from [residents]. They are more able to give day to day impressions of how we do. With attendings it seems to come down to more of their personality and if they want to teach and connect with the students.” | Student |
| “Residents have more facetime with the students. You are together all day. There’s more empathy there, you’ve been there more recently so you’re more attuned to what they want to hear.” | Resident |
| “Residents were more recently students. [They have a] clearer sense of what the students are looking for and what their skill set is.” | Attending |
| Quotes on barriers to building an effective educational alliance | |
| “Residents need feedback more than us as they’re closer to actual clinical practice. But attendings need to remember that we still must build a foundation to become doctors.” | Student |
| “Once you implement [feedback], there is no further development or progression, it is just ‘ok good job’. The opportunities to be observed are sometimes too few.” | Student |
| “Feedback is perceived to be better by residents because we are closer in age and more like [the students]. We are less intimidating.” | Resident |
| “The way we give feedback is silly. It’s at the end of the block. The students get feedback and then move on to other rotations, or we move on to other services. So how [can we] see them implement it?” | Resident |
| “One barrier [to effective feedback] was turnover with the faculty and residents. There are different teams each week the with students. It is difficult to give any longitudinal feedback in that environment.” | Attending |
| Quotes on the feedback relationship as a form of coaching | |
| “I’ve thought long and hard about how we should be coaching. From day one it should be recognized as such… the coaching aspect of helping students meet their goals and articulate those goals is crucial.” | Attending |
| “If you have a good mentor, they should be helping you synthesize the information they’re getting from all different sources. It shouldn’t be just a subspecialty or research advisor but rather a clinical coach.” | Attending |
| Quotes on the importance of student-ownership over feedback | |
| “It’s on us to ask for feedback. That’s our job.” | Student |
| “[Feedback] works best when [the student] prompts you. It [must] be…driven by the person getting feedback. That burden needs to be on the student, and students [should be] empowered to do this.” | Resident |
| Quotes on how educators can set the stage for student-ownership over feedback | |
| “I’ve tried to put it on the learner a bit to identify one component they want to work on during their time with me. We can then use that as a specific point for feedback. This makes it a little more actionable, meaningful, and specific.” | Attending |
| “I like to have [the students] drive. I try to find as many opportunities for feedback as possible during normal conduct of teaching. This way, it’s in time that you do not need to devote to other responsibilities.” | Attending |
| “We have a very brief time with the students. It is important to focus on their experience as much as possible.” | Attending |
a Focus group quotations detailing the crucial relationship between Learner and Educator.
4.2.2. The Importance of Dedicated Time and Attention to Student Feedback
| Quotes | Focus Group Source |
|---|---|
| Quotes on time as a barrier to effective feedback | |
| “[Residents and attendings] are so busy that it is hard. They just do not have enough time.” | Student |
| “I think a lot of it boils down to just time. If you have time, you get more invested. If you’re more invested, you’re more willing to give better feedback.” | Student |
| “We don’t have time. The resident-as-teacher role is overtaken by the resident role of having to do all the tasks.” | Resident |
| “Faculty members must find a way to carve out time for the students to be observed. Faculty need protected time to give feedback.” | Attending |
| “Often very rushed – because everyone is super busy. This usually leads to it being very superficial.” | Attending |
| Quotes on keeping feedback timely and relevant | |
| “The way they do it now is through flash feedback that we go and collect from residents and attendings. It’s a way to give us more feedback in small chunks as we go. Though it can be…hard to get if the team is busy.” | Student |
| “It is a real challenge to remember the students – especially for summative evaluations. [When] you observe [them], you can give …concrete feedback. But it is… hard to remember these specifics even a week later.” | Attending |
| “The biggest issue is there’s a gap from when the feedback is given from when work was done. Catching attendings more quickly might be more specific or useful.” | Attending |
| “Some faculty write an index card for each student to help remember and jog the recollection [when feedback is delayed]. These are strategies which need to be worked on and developed.” | Attending |
a Focus group quotations regarding the need to put dedicated time and attention towards student feedback.
4.2.3. Ensuring Effective Feedback as an Expectation
| Quotes | Focus Group Source |
|---|---|
| Quotes on feedback as an inherent expectation | |
| “Attending feedback that has been the most helpful is when they say proactively that we will do feedback at a given time. I find those attendings give the best feedback. If the attending knows the student will be with them for longer it tends to be more detailed.” | Student |
| “While students expect to receive feedback, attendings should expect to give it. It should be built into workflow.” | Student |
| “When I was a student attendings would come by in the afternoon every day for an hour. They would go over a topic and give us feedback. This way we had a steady relationship with them and knew it was coming.” | Resident |
| “I make it an expectation and have them show us components to give feedback on in real time. If more time could be allotted to rounds, there is more time to help the students learn.” | Attending |
| Quotes on ensuring educators and learners have clear and consistent definitions of feedback | |
| “There should be a least common denominator that carries through all the clerkships [making it] clear what the relationship to feedback is.” | Student |
| “I’m not sure if something standardized would be helpful... Maybe having some kind of standardized methodology, you would have students better understand how they are developing.” | Student |
| “[Educators are] always giving feedback. Even in the small moments of “did you check for x”. That’s feedback. You’re giving them some specific. thing that you are commenting on. They perceive that as teaching, but it’s really both. You just didn’t frame it as feedback. Unless you frame it that way, [students] will not recognize it as such… This is true for both residents and students… [Feedback is] a basic part of helping [them] learn to think and do neurology. Faculty are often giving a lot of feedback, even though [learners] may not realize that’s what they are doing.” | Attending |
| Quotes on the importance of formal training on feedback to ensure it embeds in the culture | |
| “We need to integrate how to teach and how to give feedback into residency education. Then it becomes more a part of the culture.” | Student |
| “We have more of an idea on how to give good feedback from [our own] bad experiences getting feedback.” | Resident |
| “I taught myself how to give feedback effectively because I am interested in doing that. I think it would be helpful if there was a format of how to give feedback. Something specific and objective, like a ‘smart phrase’.” | Resident |
| “Faculty development is necessary to help faculty involve the students more. It is just not a natural part of our workflow. We need to remember there is a student on the team who needs our attention as educators.” | Attending |
a Focus group quotations on building an expectation of feedback and embedding feedback in the culture of an educational environment.
4.2.4. Challenges Specific to Neurology Education
| Quotes | Focus Group Source |
|---|---|
| “Neurology both makes it easier and harder. The intensive nature of a neurologic history and exam helps to allow students to establish relationships and spend time with patients, however the attending may not devote the necessary time to observing the full encounter and giving feedback.” | Attending |
| “One challenge on neurology is on consults when you’re so busy and seeing so many different patients. Each patient needs a different assessment. It can be hard to give consistent feedback when each case is so varied.” | Resident |
| “Overarching skills are quite similar between rotations. Maybe having some kind of standardized methodology, students would better understand how they are developing across the year.” | Student |
a Focus group quotations on perceived challenges specific to neurology education.
